On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 09:37:57PM -0400, Kragen Javier Sitaker wrote: > On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 09:56:28 +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote: > > Great stuff, as usual. I wouldn't make all the initial IDs random. > > Reason: you can e.g. set the MAC from a WGS84 GPS position fix > > (about /m^2 Earth surface resolution, IIRC). Ideally, the ID should > > be a real 3d coordinate, of course. > > Sure, it might turn out that embedding GPS receivers in every munchkin Not in every node. Nodes with GPS-initiated address would be authoritative, and be nuclei of growing domains. This makes the network converge quicker, and the emerging address scheme is actually tied to an established grid. > is cost-effective, but it also might turn out that it's not. Right > now they seem to command a considerable price premium, in the tens of > dollars --- about one and a half orders of magnitude greater than the > price for an entire munchkin. I don't have any idea whether radio > receivers' costs will start to obey Moore's Law, but I don't have > strong reasons for thinking they will. I agree. The munchkin network will kill GPS, at least in high-density areas. There's no competing for multiple strong beakons vs. few very weak high above. > > I wouldn't also limit this to just direct neighbours, a node can > > sometimes see quite far -- but you'd get other distance metrics, > > such as signal strenght or a relativistic pingpong measurement. > > Indeed, I was only starting with a grid and eight neighbors because I > figured that if the approach would work anywhere, it would work there. > > While visiting Darius Bacon a couple of weeks ago, it occurred to me > that, at least for a regular two-dimensional grid, an Ising spin glass > simulation (per bit position) is probably the right thing --- it can > evolve arbitarily large domains in relatively few iterations. That's the right idea. -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE


